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Demotivational : Sonic Comics by jarredspekter Demotivational : Sonic Comics by jarredspekter
In response to the recent endless notes and comments about how my vision of Sonic having an actual semi-dramatic story is wrong and betraying the character's simplistic, colorful, goofy and fluffy true nature...

I present you with an image from Archie comics, one appropriately with Sonic telling you to hush up XD

Sonic had a simpler story in the early days, almost indistinguishable from other platformers at the time (bad guy has captured cute animals, save them) which was serviceable but had no ambition for depth. Ben Hurst and friends decided to put some effort into an animated show and turned the workprint narrative into a more involved story. Listen to Ben's interviews and you'll hear exactly what I claim. Sonic as an animated show was meant to be first and foremost a dark science fiction story, ideally considered like an ongoing movie. The limitations of the budget and studio constraints didn't quite allow the wiggle room to bring that vision to light, but that's where the comics stepped in. Originally the comics too were fluffy and colorful, but they evolved into a story of rebellion and betrayal and heroism. Even the UK picked up this darker story and Fleetway made their own parallel series with even more mature themes. Sonic X too had themes of sacrifice and loss.
The only aspect of Sonic not to evolve has been the games as Sonic Team seems convinced stories in Sonic (because they suck at writing them) are pointless.

Then there are the fans.

What do you want? Are you complaining because Sonic has to be exactly as he's been in the past? Fleetway wrote an entirely different series with similar characters but a different approach. Even Sonic X is different, so what type of Sonic should we be slavishly attached to? Sonic is, or should be, always evolving.
When he doesn't he becomes the laughingstock he is today.
Do you mean the game Sonic? What makes him so great? His modern stories are so lame, his older stories were simple, and for the most part his creators were ignoring them. They tend to change from game to game as well.
Do you just hate it when anyone but the original Japanese creators do anything Sonic? Why? They happily sold of their property to Americans then the British.

So what's your major malfunction?

If we'd all said 'Don't touch Batman! He was always meant to be a goofy neon super hero with bad puns!'
Then we'd never have gotten Batman Begins or my favorite movie The Dark Knight.
If we'd screamed 'No! Don't make television science fiction serials into a more serious adventure movie! They have to be cheap and silly!'
Then we would never have had Star Wars.
If we'd shouted and whined 'Don't touch Tolkien! Leave Lord of the Rings be! There can only be one story about orcs and humans!'
We'd never have Warcraft.
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Cyberphonic4D Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Sonic isn't a dark character or a dark series, Unleashed was perfect and I'm personally ok with 06's story, it just needed to be a little more Sonic-like. The storybook games were also perfect, Sonic doesn't need to be politcally correct and he doesn't need to be the next furry drama, which the storybook games and Unleashed hit perfectly.
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
:) I'm glad! I honestly don't like politically correct things either XD

Yeah, over the years I've re-evaluated my stance on Sonic. I would personally love to see a furry drama but maybe Sonic isn't the right rack to hang that particular hat ^^;
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Cyberphonic4D Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Oh, cool. Yeah though, an original series or maybe Sly Cooper or something for that type of thing but Sonic isn't the kind of thing for furry drama, it's pretty unique in it's style and I'm glad they stayed away from that.

I most likely wouldn't have been a fan of Sonic if he started to wear clothes, had more human like proportions, was more dramatic, and romance had a place in the stories, he doesn't seem like an icon then or even something cool but that's just to me, not sure about anyone else.
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Oh sure :D
Everyone has their own opinions so it's perfectly cool XD

I like both versions, but maybe indeed the more dramatic Sonic would be better off just being a different story entirely.
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jlnhlfan Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Much lies. Wow. So dark. Such Sci-fi.
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Hmm?
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jlnhlfan Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I took inspiration from a meme.
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jlnhlfan Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Noooooooooo! Not the "Bite of '93"!!!!!!!!! This is my name for the U.S. comics.
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Mr86Returns Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
There seems to be a shortage of vocabulary here. People talk about wanting Sonic to be darker, when the truth is that what the series needs to be is smarter. Not necessarily more cerebral or more introspective, just... smarter. It needs to present its audience with a story that takes itself seriously without becoming a parody of the silliness or edginess at the two extremes of how it's previously been written. Furthermore, it needs to make its audience feel that they aren't being talked down to in any way. That's the rendition of Sonic I can respect.
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Cyberphonic4D Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015  Student Digital Artist
You're right kinda. But people do want a non politcally correct Sonic from the storybook games and Unleashed too. They want a cool story which a darker story could bring since Sonic is pretty much pitch white right now. A smarter story is only part of it but yeah.
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
That's...perfect O_o

I actually couldn't describe it better. Very nicely put!
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Mr86Returns Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, it's the underlying idea behind a fanfic/fan game concept of mine. Long story short, the whole thing's a merger of all of the games, comics and cartoons. It was spurred on by my frustration at how people in the Sonic fandom can't seem to agree on anything. Naturally, I had to figure out what everyone wanted deep down but couldn't articulate before I could really get down to writing. Anyway, that's my :twocents:.
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XaviorTheLycan Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2015
Yeah, you can say that Sonic is never supposed to be blah blah blah, but here Sonic is a ninja, so everyone's arguments are invalid....I have no idea when this meme will stop, so don't ask me
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Sonicgirl1552000 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014
I don't mind serious Sonic storylines. The problem is that the Archie comics overdo it. It seems that there is drama in every single panel. It gets annoying very fast. Sonic X did the seriousness right. It wasn't TOO serious or TOO goofy. It had its serious moments as well as its lighthearted moments. That's why its my favourite Sonic show. Don't take this the wrong way. You're allowed to like the Archie comics, but I think that they overdo the drama.
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
To a writer, the art is not in making a middle ground for everyone to experience everything, it is to guide the reader to keep going and stay interested. The comics kept the reader going. So did, to an extent, Sonic X. Sonic X however did not do very effective character balance, and that resulted in a lot of hate for Chris, which seems to have too much power in the story, and the trio of machines Robotnik carries alongside him, which is way too weak for the story and obviously should have been processed into scrap metal.

Keeping a reader interested is a very fine science, one that is not ruled by middle ground, rather ruled by natural selection. Humans did not win over because they were a balance between intelligence, immunity and brute force, we were rather specialized in what we could do, and because of the ability we had having more applications that could make up for what we are missing. Likewise the success of a story is determined not by middle ground, as you can have a lot of imbecilic jokes and later have an action scene that uses the characters broken by the jokes, but that is not likely a good story design, as nobody wants to give those characters any respect anymore.
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014
Characters and franchises evolve, change and... ultimately... grow up, at least they should.  And the idea that if it's for kids  it can't be deep or dark is just SOOOOOOOOO stupid! Watch Avatar, or Batman the animated series! Or whatever! Some people...

Now that I think about it... I wrote a darker Sonic story focusing on Metal Sonic actually... I have it on Deviant Art... it's not the best but I tried
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shanedaman2014 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014   Filmographer
What ever happn to him running around stomping on robots to save forest animals. That was the good old days
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
What happened was that you let your obsession with Kirby and cuteness corrupt your expectations of Sonic. Throw it all away, as you are now shitting on this franchise.
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shanedaman2014 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015   Filmographer
also I was doing a joke
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shanedaman2014 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 8, 2015   Filmographer
why bother replying a comment that's 4 Months old?
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shanedaman2014 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015   Filmographer
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EpsilonEagle Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
I don't mind Sonic occasionally trying to be dark and serious, many shows and games do this like Zelda, One Piece, Megaman, ect. and it often works. The problem when you take Sonic and try to make it dark and serious is that Sonic is not a dark and serious series in and of itself. It just doesn't work with some franchises: Mario, Kirby, Doraemon, you can't make these shows dark without making them seem very stupid and, ironically, more cartoonish than their original source material. If you're trying to understand why Genesis era Sonic fans hate a lot of the dark, serious Sonic stuff, especially Archie, than you have to understand that when we see stuff like Archie Sonic and SatAM we can't help but make unfavorable comparisons to stuff like the Loonatics. A lot of classic Sonic fans like myself don't mind seeing occasional dark moments in Sonic, I for one like them and sometimes have such moments in my own work. We don't mind seeing Sonic occasionally lose despite his best efforts and to see him face impossible odds, but when writers like Archie decide to take Sonic and try to make it some Alan Moore-esque "Redwall vs. Robo-Hitler" story where he spends the majority of the time fighting with his friends, be emotionally scarred or get betrayed by someone, I for one can't help but shake my head. I don't want to seem confrontational, this is just how I see it.
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
When exactly was Sonic supposed to be lighthearted? Oh, because that you have a fatty-fat-fat antagonist that spews out sweat when he runs away shitting himself? Was it because of cute little animals that you mistake as toads from super mario bros? Because that is nothing against the nature of roboticization, the authoritarian nature of world domination, the shitload of industrialism, and the amount of action that you face in the games that you are pulling shit out of.
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WolfmanHanan Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Student
Get a life you self righteous hypocrite. His games are awesome, and screw what you said about sonic! Your wrong you asshole!
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
What you thought you said:

"Oh, with your unsophisticated opinion, and your lack of significant evidence, I would like to refuse your imbecilic opinion until you have further proof of what the Sonic franchise should be."

What I heard you said:

"NUU, Sanic shold B alwayz liteheartd fur-eva! Fuk yo shit up yo ass and huehuehue at yur shit! KKKKKKKKKKK."
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WolfmanHanan Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2015  Student
No, I agree that it should be a dark series, but it was supposed to be interesting.
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015
Oh, I realized just now that you were talking about the last paragraph of the description under the picture.
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EmperorsGuard Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014
You sir need to get a life. Sonic is for kids. 
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TayzeJacksonBell Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014
And we can't have depth in a kids series? Go watch Avatar...
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preadatordetector Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
"Sonic is 4Kids". Yeah, and kids play CoD, Metal Gear, and like seeing shit blow up. And swearing too!
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SonadowStories Featured By Owner May 26, 2014
I would prefer a more darker story for Sonic. Why? Because I really like dark stories with adult themes! Personally, I find colourful and silly stories to give little to none character development, while darker themes gives us things we can relate to, even if it's still a story about a blue speedy hedgehog! Darker themes makes and the way characters handle these themes, makes them much more interesting than characters who have little to no story. It doesn't mean that because it's a bunch of anthromorphic animals with colours that the Carebears would be jealous about that they can't have a more mature story. I think that it would also appeal much more to older teens and adults. Just look at the Zelda series! Their more realistic and darker games sold way better than the more colourful ones.
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FlameWhirlwind176 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, things have to change in order to stay relevant. Nothing stays the same forever, not even video games.

Plus i hate it when people are like "only the Japanese should do sonic".. soo just cause sega is a Japanese company, and his creators were Japanese, only japan can do sonic? Last time i checked Sega/Sonic team did the dark age of sonic, aswell as the fact each game was different and no seance continuity, and that the japanese just DON'T CARE about sonic as an audience?

The western regions have allways liked sonic better then japan ever will, that's why most spin offs are MADE in america.

When ever theirs something for japan, they don't know what to do with it to make it work. Because sonic from the beginning was inspired by american media, even long before he was a game character and just an idea.

i say the games hould just stay here in the west and be allowed to use more of the ideas western sonic fans can like, It'd help it thrive much more. Because simply making something "simple" doesnt mean you can't add depth in some shape or form.
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SCP049Fan Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014
So freaking true.
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Goophou Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
100% couldn't agree more. A darker Sonic would be so much interesting! 

Archie comics are confusing and messy, but sometimes they get it right, just like when Knuckles turned into Enerjak and his father sacrificed himself to bring him back, or the robotization thing. Sonic X had some decent plot in the second series, but they didn't put much effort in the whole show, at least imo.


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Georgeallin1 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014
Well what if Sonic was published by Dark Horse comics?
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
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Vol-Jin Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
Truth.. such truth... hold on.. NO! TOO MUCH TRUTH! TRUTH IS OVERLOADING 

:iconseriousfaceplz: :iconsaysplz: Catastrophic failure in the "Truth" intake, it's gonna blow!

:iconexplosionplz:

:iconfireplz:

But seriously, why can't people let sonic evole into something great? If people had never let WoW evocve, it wouldn't still be the biggest MMO on the market. If Batman got stuck like sonic is, then we never would have had these great stories like Dark Knight...

LET SONIC GROW!
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FinnAkira Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student General Artist
This is exactly what i think! Even though Sonic is a ''cartoon hedgehog'', he is still a HERO, and hero's are someones kids and almost everyone can admire because of their personality, choises, and how he evolves as a character. Sonic is not meant to be just a silly, cheesy jokes cracking 5-years old entertaining saturday morning cartoon character, only purpose just trying to make kids laugh. His personality kinda reminds me of Spider-Man. A cocky hero who insults his enemies. When it comes to hero's, people want a character they can admire, watch him to learn from his mistakes and grow up to be a better hero. People who say ''A blue cartoon hedgehog, running really fast and his favorite food being childogs is not suppose to take seriously'' are just so wrong. Ahem, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are mutated turtles, living in the sewers with their father figure rat who teaches them ninjitsu, and their favorite food being Pizza, is one of the most serious and darkest comic series there is. Yea the first cartoon version was just a silly version of it, its only purpose to make kids laugh. That's why i don't really like it that much. I can't take the characters seriously, there's not much of story etc. But i loved 2003 version because of the dark atmosphere, character development and good story line. So yea, i think people can see my point here :D
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perrythehedgehog Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
I kind of like a dark Sonic. It gives him some sort of gradient to his personality, which he normally lacks. I'm not just mentioning the games, I'm mentioning EVERYTHING. If anything, the versions in the cartoons (Satam, Underground and the like) are worse than the games on occurrence of nothing bad ever happening to him at all (even if the game version loses points by not learning any lessons from these bad things, which made half of Lost World excruciating) and I very much doubt that will change with the upcoming Sonic Boom. The comics on the other hand are just obnoxious in about every detail. To be fair, they DO stick close to the SEGA writing style; it's just that that involves incredibly bad depictions of drama and solving conflict in a story. And throwing everything out the window and starting again in the same dumb manner when it inevitably goes wrong.

It's a shame, too. I do genuinely think the comics could be good if the companies and their 5 year old writers listened to the more sane and more forgiving fans once in a while. If they held a contest to make an official comic based on a short fanfic, I would enter. I'd probably LOSE, but still.
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
Sat/AM had thing happen to him, guy.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z1ge6…
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theSEGAloser Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013   Writer
I just want sonic games to go back to the way were in the Dreamcast Era.
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Me too i love Sonic Adventure 1 alot
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SonicDPLozLove Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sonic was never meant to be any of that... but when it happened we freaking loved EVERY SECOND OF IT!! They they ruined it by completely destroying the characters and what-not
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
I agree.
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Hexidextrous Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
Sonic was never meant to be Sci-Fi? What are you talking about?
Sonic has had things such as Robots, Space Travel, Teleportation, and plenty of other Futuristic things since the very beginning! It most certainly is Sci-Fi!
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The poster is sarcastic ^^;
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Hexidextrous Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
Oh okay.
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
Thank you for this wonderful rant. :clap:
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Pikxiiv Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You have a right to believe the way you do.  I will not rant at you just cuz you don't have the same feelings as I.  But coming from a die hard sonic fan since I could read, I don't really care weather sonic is lame, old school, or just flat out stupid.  The Sonic games will always have a place in heart.  I was that little kid that would say on career day, "When I grow up, I wanna be like Sonic the Hedgehog!" I just grew up loving him and I will die loving his games.  I don't care how cheesy the games or movies/TV shows get.  Sonic the Hedgehog and the Sonic Team will always be my heroes.  Sorry for the rant! XD ill just go now. *scoots away*
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jarredspekter Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Sure deal! You're welcome to your opinion and you were very considerate in the stating of the same ^_^
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