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:iconjarredspekter:
In response to the recent endless notes and comments about how my vision of Sonic having an actual semi-dramatic story is wrong and betraying the character's simplistic, colorful, goofy and fluffy true nature...

I present you with an image from Archie comics, one appropriately with Sonic telling you to hush up XD

Sonic had a simpler story in the early days, almost indistinguishable from other platformers at the time (bad guy has captured cute animals, save them) which was serviceable but had no ambition for depth. Ben Hurst and friends decided to put some effort into an animated show and turned the workprint narrative into a more involved story. Listen to Ben's interviews and you'll hear exactly what I claim. Sonic as an animated show was meant to be first and foremost a dark science fiction story, ideally considered like an ongoing movie. The limitations of the budget and studio constraints didn't quite allow the wiggle room to bring that vision to light, but that's where the comics stepped in. Originally the comics too were fluffy and colorful, but they evolved into a story of rebellion and betrayal and heroism. Even the UK picked up this darker story and Fleetway made their own parallel series with even more mature themes. Sonic X too had themes of sacrifice and loss.
The only aspect of Sonic not to evolve has been the games as Sonic Team seems convinced stories in Sonic (because they suck at writing them) are pointless.

Then there are the fans.

What do you want? Are you complaining because Sonic has to be exactly as he's been in the past? Fleetway wrote an entirely different series with similar characters but a different approach. Even Sonic X is different, so what type of Sonic should we be slavishly attached to? Sonic is, or should be, always evolving.
When he doesn't he becomes the laughingstock he is today.
Do you mean the game Sonic? What makes him so great? His modern stories are so lame, his older stories were simple, and for the most part his creators were ignoring them. They tend to change from game to game as well.
Do you just hate it when anyone but the original Japanese creators do anything Sonic? Why? They happily sold of their property to Americans then the British.

So what's your major malfunction?

If we'd all said 'Don't touch Batman! He was always meant to be a goofy neon super hero with bad puns!'
Then we'd never have gotten Batman Begins or my favorite movie The Dark Knight.
If we'd screamed 'No! Don't make television science fiction serials into a more serious adventure movie! They have to be cheap and silly!'
Then we would never have had Star Wars.
If we'd shouted and whined 'Don't touch Tolkien! Leave Lord of the Rings be! There can only be one story about orcs and humans!'
We'd never have Warcraft.
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:iconmasterfusion:
I love this rant!
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:iconfluffythehedgehog12:
I think 4Kids butchered every single show they had. Pokemon anime was the worst, the Sonic X came right after.

Jetix is awesome.
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:icongregory66613:
Mood: Joy ~Gregory66613 Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The only real Sonic game story i liked was Unleashed. Adventure's was presented badly, Adventure 2 had a lot of plotholes, Heroes was too simple, Shadow was too complex and boring, Sonic 06 combined every single problem i've just mentioned minus the simplicity, and Generations had some serious missed oppertunities with the whole "past sonic" thing and it just did nothing for me with it's presentation.

as for the archie comic, whether Ian Flynn is driving them into the ground or leading them into the promised land is subjective, personally I like him, because Penders and all of his happy gang of merry men didn't do anything for me, except maybe 134, which i effing despise with every fiber of the fiber in my diet that goes into my fiber-optics.

and Fleetway, i think they definitely had something going with Sonic's tweaked personality, a completely different Amy Rose, all of those neat side stories with Knuckles and Tails, and who can forget Fleetway Super Sonic? the most badass thing to come out of the United Kingdom (except Dr. Who and Judge Dredd)

and Sonic X? it would have been perfect if not for Chris Thorndyke.

but before I lose control and go into my 4Kids-induced-rage, i want to compliment you for what you've written here. it really drives the point home that Sonic needs to evolve as not only a video game character, but also as an icon if he is to be accepted into our modern world and taken seriously (looking at you Duke Nukem), and maybe then will we have a 3D Sonic game that has perfect gameplay and story.
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:iconwe-all-have-rabies:
*We-All-Have-Rabies Apr 24, 2013  Student Artist
You Showcased My Concerns Perfectly In Your Comment.

When It Came To Games I Was The Odd Man Out Although Overtime It Was Only As A Fan I Truly Overlooked Obvious Plot Holes And Inconsistencies To Just Be Glad That I Get To Play Another Sonic Game. But I Stopped Thinking That Way After Playing Sonic Adventure 2, It Changed My Attitude About Playing Sonic Games And It Had Nothing To Do With New Characters. But I Still Play. But Not Sonic Riders, That Game Is BROKEN.Not Because Of The Characters.

With The Comics I Was A Fan Since The 90's And Penders Was Great But Ian Flynn Offered A More Evolved Version That Gives The Characters More Depth. Displaying Legitimate Emotions BUT Sometimes Sacrifices The Characters Noble Traits Which Sometimes Leaves Me Confused. They Should Try To Incorporate Both The Style Of Penders And Ian Flynn To Balance The Story Out A Little.

About 4kids. I Was Surprised This Actually Happened When I First Came To America To Find Out That There Was A Show Called Sonic X. The Only Thing I Don't Like About It Is Simply The Thorndykes. I Was Also Hoping For It To Be Based On Mobius Instead Of Earth, I'm Referring To The Sonic The Heghog TV Series From 1994. That Was A Good Show. But I Do State That Sonic X Has Potential. They Just Need To Work On The Animation A Tiny More.

Thank You For Your Thoughts.
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:iconfleetlordreach:
Sonic was created to be light and fun so...yeah Im afraid im against SATAM . I was a fan, now...well I think it kinda sucks. It was good for its time, but its really dated and really crappy now.
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:iconairsarge:
people want things to continue to churn things out but remain the same (like The Simpsons) but this cause it to quickly become stale and uninteresting. so entertainment slowly/rapidly changes to stay fresh. then people start complaining and..... and.....rageguyplz
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:iconsinzuthegreat:
You know, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic '06, Sonic Unleashed, and Sonic Generations all had pretty dark plots. Just because Sonic is has and always will be a cocky, impatient character, that doesn't mean the games themselves never changed. So, in a way, you should take a look at your own work. One more thing: how is Sonic not sci-fi? Other than, you know, the anthropomorphic, unrealistically colored, irregularly proportioned animals as protagonists.

Of course, I still like this despite that rant. Also, I agree with how Sonic doesn't always need to stay the same. I've seen that they subtly alter Sonic's character for each game so he can fluidly fit in. I'm pretty sure that os Sonic acted the way he did in Heroes in Colors, (spoilers!) Tails would've died because Sonic wouldn't push him into the elevator to save him, instead trying to use the REAL SUPERPOWER OF TEAMWORK to stop Eggman. And Knuckles would be there.

Wow. Two rants in one comment. That's the first time that's happened.
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:iconsonicmaurice:
excuse me but i really love
Sonic the way he is and i think he's funny , nice , good , cool , and the games are really awesome like sonic generations and sonic and the black knight HE IS DIFFERENT IN ANY GAMES but doesn't mean he is bad in other games WE LOVE SONIC IN ANY WAY!



" Sonic The Awesome "
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:iconjarredspekter:
*jarredspekter Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:aww: That's perfectly fine!

As vehement as I might seem in my positions, I am NOT saying people who disagree with me are wrong or stupid.

Please if you're happy I wouldn't dream to make you otherwise ^^
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~DeviPP Mar 2, 2013  Student Artist
i did it wromg nooooooooo
:iconepicfacepalmplz:
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